Hillary Bringing Paid Staff into Illinois

by: bored now

Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 10:20:10 AM CST


clout street, the chicago tribune's local politics blog, reports that Hillary bringing paid staff into Illinois in effort to snatch delegates from Obama.

With hopes of wringing some Democratic presidential convention delegates out of Barack Obama's home state, officials for Hillary Clinton's campaign said today they will bring paid staff into Illinois starting next week en route to the Feb. 5 primary.

Though the numbers of paid workers aren't known at this point pending the results of this weekend's Nevada caucuses and the work going on for the South Carolina Democratic primary, their jobs are to try to buttress a volunteer force of congressional district leaders who helped organize the Clinton campaign's delegate slates.

bored now :: Hillary Bringing Paid Staff into Illinois
delegates are selected by congressional district.  if a candidate receives votes above a certain threshold -- which is different for each congressional district -- they are eligible to receive a delegate(s).  the threshold ranges from 25% in the 4th congressional district to 15% in other congressional districts.  the number of delegates is determined by the democratic vote for president from that congressional district in prior years.

obama and hillary were the only presidential campaigns to offer full delegate slates in illinois.  edwards and richardson offered partial slates (richardson, iirc, actually had more delegate candidates).  kucinich is on the ballot, but did not put up a single delegate.  candidates for delegate to the national convention are required to collect their own petition signatures (although petitions are by congressional district or slate), separate from the signatures collected to put the presidential candidate on the ballot.  these are often considered harder to gather than signatures for national candidates.  however, slates can be put on the ballot just by offering up nominating papers, since the signature requirements are only enforced if someone challenges them.  there has never been a challenge to convention delegate candidates.

hillary's decision to fight for delegates in illinois mirrors the obama campaign's decision to fight for delegates in new york (where delegates are also divided by congressional district).  one assumes, although there has been no confirmation, that the clinton campaign will be bringing in spanish-speaking staff and that they intend to fight for delegates primarily in the 4th congressional district, currently held by luis gutierrez.  the 4th cd is the home of alderman danny solis (25th ward), who is the biggest politician in illinois to have endorsed hillary.  he is also the brother to hillary's campaign manager (patty solis).  the clinton campaign can expect to do better outside of the city of chicago, where the machine will be manning virtually every precinct, picking up delegates here and there.

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just remember (0.00 / 0)
in many districts, HRC can win a delegate (or more) even if she gets creamed in the vote totals.

So O supporters need to get out the vote to "run up the score", so to speak.

And it wouldn't hurt to work out an alliance with the JRE supporters either, at least in districts where O has a large lead.


What about the Richardson delegates? (0.00 / 0)


both richardson and his delegates... (0.00 / 0)
are still on the ballot.  but richardson would still have to reach the 15% (or greater) threshold.  since he couldn't do it when he was in the race, it's hard to think that he could do in now.  but, if he did, he would receive the proportional delegate for that congressional district...

"We did not come to fear the future. We came here to shape it." - President Obama, Sept 9, 2009

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I meant, voting for his delegates (0.00 / 0)
on the delegate slate.  Do we know what candidate these delegates would support now?

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they are supposed to support richardson... (0.00 / 0)
but there's a reason why they are technically "delegates with a preference towards X."  there's no legal obligation on the part of any delegate.  they can support whoever.  it's just never done (i seem to recall one delegate who didn't support their candidate in my lifetime; but)...

"We did not come to fear the future. We came here to shape it." - President Obama, Sept 9, 2009

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As a Richardson Delegate (0.00 / 0)
I would only go to the convention if Richardson were to win 15% in my district but since he is out the race that is unlikely to happen.
  If another candidate, like Edwards or Kucinich, does get 15% in a district and does not have delegates on the ballot their campaigns can slate people afterwards.
 Obama and Clinton have full slates in all districts so their delegates would come from their slate.

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There was one occasion ... (0.00 / 0)
in the 1980s, I believe, when a majority of delegates elected from my CD were pladged to a candidate who later dropped out. They held a "town hall" meeting to ratify their decision to actually vote for the eventual nominee on the first ballot.

Bill Thomasson

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By the way (0.00 / 0)
You can vote for me as delegate still.  It will mean nothing but I always will appreciate your vote!

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Well, that's what I meant to do (0.00 / 0)
but I've been wondering what it means.

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It means we still think Christine rocks! (n/t) (0.00 / 0)


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