Want to chat about Carl's poll?

by: wegerje

Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 14:12:29 PM CST


Carl Nyberg has set up a Condorcet poll here for voting on a Candidate for Lt Governor now that we have lost Scott Cohen. Use this diary to discuss that poll. Or anything else LG related.

   CONDORCET 30 Candidate poll - Vote here.

wegerje :: Want to chat about Carl's poll?
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Want to chat about Carl's poll? | 21 comments
with 21 votes cast here are the rankings (0.00 / 0)
1. Thomas Castillo  
2. Dan Hynes
3. Raja Krishnamoorthi  
4. Naomi Jakobsson  
5. Julie Hamos  
6. David Hoffman  
7. Cheryle Robinson Jackson  
8. Tied:
Miguel DelValle  
Tammy Duckworth  
David Orr  
11. Dawn Clark Netsch
12. Tied:
Linda Chapa LaVia  
Lauren Beth Gash  
14. Tied:
Manny Flores
Sheila Simon  
16. Tied:
Deanna Demuzio  
David Phelps  
18. Glenn Poshard  
19. James Clayborne, Jr.  
20. Mike Frerichs  
21. Tied:
Mike Boland  
Mark Mahoney  
John Sullivan  
24. Mike Jacobs  
25. Bill Haine  
26. Art Turner  
27. Tony Fabri  
28. Terry Link  
29. Tied:
Frank Avila  
Rickey Hendon  
31. John Mulroe (write-in)

Castillo is pushing the poll on his Facebook page.

Interesting. (0.00 / 0)
I thought he was doing well because the poll was on Proviso Probe.

Jeff Wegerson
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Castillo has friends in Proviso (0.00 / 0)
but he's done a great job organizing online.

He's interested in state senate in 2012 if he doesn't get the nod for ltgov. Castillo vs. Cronin?

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Make that Castillo vs. Pankau. (0.00 / 0)
I'm pretty sure TC lives in the same district as me, district 23.


"In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got to be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose." -- I.F. Stone
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I think positively of Castillo, but does anyone think he's ready... (0.00 / 0)
to be Governor?  Hynes said he doesn't want it.  

The Party's really got to choose someone who could BE Governor (especially if we intend to go after the lack of qualifications of the R Lt. Gov. choice), has NO questions about him/her, wants the job of Lt. Gov., and, to a lesser degree, works well with Quinn.

That would disqualify a lot of people here.

Still, progressives uniting behind a candidate acceptable to most of us would be good before the State Central Committee meets.  And lobbying the 9th, 10th, 7th, etc. Committeemen ASAP would be good.

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progressives and Machine are on the same page? (0.00 / 0)
Both side mostly want to win.

Who on the list is ready to step in as governor?

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I voted already, I'm just pointing out that the sample needs... (0.00 / 0)
to be bigger, and then, some consensus needs to be reached among progressives, if we think we have any chance to affect the outcome at the DSSC.
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Zero sum (3.00 / 1)
So Madigan needs to pick someone who could be governor.  The primary qualification of someone who could be governor is someone who can stand up to Madigan when needs be.  Therefore, Madigan is unlikely to pick someone who really could be governor.

Which means Castillo is a good bet since Madigan wouldn't see him as a threat.

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Madigan's not the only chooser, and... (0.00 / 0)
to let him be is the non-progressive choice.
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So, being anti-Madigan is the ONLY choosing point? (0.00 / 0)
If so, I can think of many 'better' choices.
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No (0.00 / 0)
I wasn't suggesting someone "anti-Madigan" -- just someone who can stand up to him.  Which are different things entirely.

And the argument was a bit of snark: sorry that wasn't clear.  

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Tuesday morn, 76 votes cast (0.00 / 0)
1. Thomas Castillo
2. David Hoffman
3. Dan Hynes
4. Julie Hamos
5. Raja Krishnamoorthi
6. Tammy Duckworth
7. Cheryle Robinson Jackson
8. Naomi Jakobsson
9. Dawn Clark Netsch  
10. Tied:
Linda Chapa LaVia
Sheila Simon  
12. Tied:
Lauren Beth Gash  
Glenn Poshard  
14. Mike Boland  
15. Miguel DelValle  
16. David Orr  
17. Manny Flores  
18. Mark Mahoney  
19. David Phelps  
20. Art Turner  
21. Tied:
James Clayborne, Jr.
Deanna Demuzio  
23. Mike Frerichs
24. John Sullivan
25. Mike Jacobs  
26. Terry Link
27. Frank Avila  
28. Bill Haine  
29. Tony Fabri  
30. Rickey Hendon
31. John Mulroe (write-in)
32. Daniel Davis (write-in)
33. Erik Rankin (write-in)  
34. Barb Brown (write-in)  
35. Christopher Cornell (write-in)
36. Dan Pierce (write-in)
37. Susan Garrett (write-in)  
38. Eddie VanBogaert (write-in)
39. Jeff Schoenberg (write-in)
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I get the sense that (0.00 / 0)
Most of the people participating in the poll are from the Chicago area and few are African-Americans.
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I'm surprised (0.00 / 0)
Glen Poshard is so high on the list.  Which might refute the Chicago-area theory, since I don't get the sense that he was ever very popular in Chicago.  
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I suspect (4.00 / 1)
He's the only Southern Illinois politician that Castillo's suburban supporters have heard of.  This poll is pretty useless after being linked on Castillo's page.  
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Yes it is pretty useless. (0.00 / 0)
However it has use as a general ballpark narrowing. We know we can discount the apparent success of Castillo. Not entirely. But he probably still would be in the top 15.

Jeff Wegerson
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Why do you say that? (0.00 / 0)
It could be that poll participants realize that were the Democrats to add a fourth African-American to the statewide ticket (say by choosing Rep. Turner to replace Cohen), the ticket would be quite imbalanced.

The problem with getting downstate candidates promoted in this poll is that many of the prospects are not as well known as those from Chicago, because they have generally held less prominent offices.  Add to that the fact that a majority of the Democratic vote lies within Cook County and it is hardly a shock that most of the Downstate options are doing rather poorly in this poll.

Perhaps if each of the now nearly 40 names listed included a brief description as to who they are and what they have done, some of the Downstate prospects might be doing better in this poll.

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Tuesday evening, 133 votes cast (0.00 / 0)
1. David Hoffman
2. Thomas Castillo
3. Julie Hamos
4. Dan Hynes
5. Raja Krishnamoorthi  
6. Tammy Duckworth
7. Cheryle Robinson Jackson  
8. Sheila Simon  
9. Lauren Beth Gash
10. Art Turner  
11. Dawn Clark Netsch
12. Linda Chapa LaVia
13. Manny Flores  
14. Miguel DelValle  
15. Glenn Poshard  
16. Tied:
Naomi Jakobsson  
David Orr  
18. Mike Boland  
19. Bill Haine  
20. James Clayborne, Jr.  
21. John Sullivan  
22. Mike Frerichs  
23. Terry Link  
24. Mark Mahoney  
25. Frank Avila  
26. Tied:
Deanna Demuzio
David Phelps  
28. Tony Fabri  
29. Mike Jacobs  
30. Rickey Hendon  
31. John Mulroe (write-in)
32. Daniel Davis (write-in)
33. Erik Rankin (write-in)  
34. Barb Brown (write-in)  
35. Christopher Cornell (write-in)  
36. Dan Pierce (write-in)  
37. Susan Garrett (write-in)  
38. Eddie VanBogaert (write-in)  
39. Jeff Schoenberg (write-in)  
40. John Bambenek (write-in)
41. Gary Hannig (write-in)
42. Karen May (write-in)
43. Christine Cegelis (write-in)
44. Laurel Prussing (write-in)  
45. Danny Stover (write-in)
46. Pamella Gronemeyer (write-in)
47. Capitol Fax Bill (write-in)  
48. Steven W. Mandel (write-in)
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Forgot to vote for Capitol Fax Bill! (0.00 / 0)

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Oh I'd love (0.00 / 0)
Pam Gronemeyer as Lt Gov :) the Dem machine would never know what hit them ...
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Thursday morn, 161 votes cast (0.00 / 0)
1. David Hoffman
2. Thomas Castillo
3. Julie Hamos  
4. Tied:
Dan Hynes  
Raja Krishnamoorthi  
6. Tammy Duckworth
7. Sheila Simon  
8. Lauren Beth Gash
9. Art Turner
10. Tied:
Miguel DelValle  
Cheryle Robinson Jackson  
12. Dawn Clark Netsch  
13. Linda Chapa LaVia  
14. Manny Flores  
15. Glenn Poshard  
16. Mike Boland  
17. Naomi Jakobsson  
18. David Orr
19. Bill Haine  
20. James Clayborne, Jr.  
21. John Sullivan
22. Mike Frerichs  
23. Terry Link  
24. Deanna Demuzio
25. Mark Mahoney  
26. Frank Avila  
27. David Phelps  
28. Tony Fabri  
29. Mike Jacobs  
30. Rickey Hendon  
31. John Mulroe (write-in)  
32. Daniel Davis (write-in)
33. Erik Rankin (write-in)  
34. Barb Brown (write-in)
35. Christopher Cornell (write-in)  
36. Dan Pierce (write-in)  
37. Susan Garrett (write-in)  
38. Eddie VanBogaert (write-in)  
39. Jeff Schoenberg (write-in)
40. John Bambenek (write-in)  
41. Gary Hannig (write-in)  
42. Karen May (write-in)  
43. Christine Cegelis (write-in)
44. Laurel Prussing (write-in)  
45. Danny Stover (write-in)
46. Pamella Gronemeyer (write-in)  
47. Capitol Fax Bill (write-in)  
48. Steven W. Mandel (write-in)  
49. Dan Kotowski (write-in)
50. Tim Bagwell (write-in)
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